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[quote=NoEffex]it isn't "Linux's" fault, it's probably the distributions "fault"[/img]

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If only everyone had that mindset, there would be less idiotic questions and statements turning up. I also hate people who think Linux is Linux, as in, they tried one distro and they think that's Linux. For example, I was talking to one of my friends and I recommended Arch Linux to him, he responds with, "How is it different from regular Linux?". I had no idea what he meant by "regular Linux", and when I found out he was talking about Ubuntu, my blood pressure rose to dangerous levels.
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it isn't "Linux's" fault, it's probably the distributions "fault"
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If only everyone had that mindset, there would be less idiotic questions and statements turning up. I also hate people who think Linux is Linux, as in, they tried one distro and they think that's Linux. For example, I was talking to one of my friends and I recommended Arch Linux to him, he responds with, "How is it different from regular Linux?". I had no idea what he meant by "regular Linux", and when I found out he was talking about Ubuntu, my blood pressure rose to dangerous levels.
You hit 'er right on the money. My problem isn't that people think Ubuntu is Linux, they think that Linux is Ubuntu, the poorest excuse for a distribution(IMO). The thing fails in so many levels aside from the wubi installer. I installed all their build-essentially tools, gcc, etc from their repos, installed something from source(I think it was actually the pspsdk) in the correct place and everything, and it broke it. Some how, some way.

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You hit 'er right on the money. My problem isn't that people think Ubuntu is Linux, they think that Linux is Ubuntu, the poorest excuse for a distribution(IMO). The thing fails in so many levels aside from the wubi installer. I installed all their build-essentially tools, gcc, etc from their repos, installed something from source(I think it was actually the pspsdk) in the correct place and everything, and it broke it. Some how, some way.

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what ubuntu DOES have going for it is that it has the LARGEST user base... hands down. nothing else comes close.

Chances are if you need to install something several people on the forums have installed it, know how to install it, and fix problems that arise.

ubuntu-forums is probably one of the most powerful help forums out there for linux. hell Im sure that someone has setup there own repo for the pspsdk lol. you just dont find that kind of breadth in terms of user support with any other distro.

one of the main problems w/ ubuntu is that now they have so many users it is hard to make radicle changes to the UI or anything else to improve it. They are kind of turning into google in that regard (google wont change anything on their website design... even by a few pixels.... without thouroughly testing customer satisfaction).
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what ubuntu DOES have going for it is that it has the LARGEST user base... hands down. nothing else comes close.

Chances are if you need to install something several people on the forums have installed it, know how to install it, and fix problems that arise.

ubuntu-forums is probably one of the most powerful help forums out there for linux. hell Im sure that someone has setup there own repo for the pspsdk lol. you just dont find that kind of breadth in terms of user support with any other distro.

one of the main problems w/ ubuntu is that now they have so many users it is hard to make radicle changes to the UI or anything else to improve it. They are kind of turning into google in that regard (google wont change anything on their website design... even by a few pixels.... without thouroughly testing customer satisfaction).
Fedora's catching up, actually. I know I couldn't find any real help on their forums other than "run dpkg -c" or whatever the stupid command was the print the errors when something major broke. They are good with themes and simple problems(ie bad repo) but when it comes to real problems(ie broken libc6) they can't help much.

Debian on the other hand is fantastic. Since I don't like Ubuntu much, I figured Debian would be garbage too, but after trying it out the thing is rock solid. Only thing I did was upgrade to testing repos and ONE package broke, dbus, and it was on a bug report literally 5 minutes after, and I was able to fix it(Installed in the wrong directory).
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