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Old 02-18-2009, 04:08 PM
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Default CR-3100 / CR-5400 Compatibility & Speed Tests

The pupose of this thread is to create a database of speed tests for the
cr-3100 and cr-5400 micro stick to pro duo adapters

CR-3100: (clips onto back of umd drive)


CR-5400: (fits in memory stick slot)


first i'd like to thank:
Melan, The_Android, KoukiMonster, TheB1Dude & Blood_breaker
for their hard work in testing these adapters


The Method for Testing:
- Download BlackSpeed v.2
- Install it onto your PSP
- Run BlackSpeed
- It will save results automatically if you have a "PICTURE" folder at the root of your stick
- Post photo to your favorite image hosting site
- Post a link to your photo in this thread along with your:
---------> PSP type (phat=1000, slim=2000, or brite=3000)
---------> Micro sd type (sd or sdhc)
---------> Micro sd size(s) (ie: 2gb + 8gb)
---------> Micro sd Manufacturer (sandisk, adata, lexar, etc.)
---------> Speed Class (if you dont know for sure, dont bother trying to guess)
---------> Speed up Memory Stick Access (if using 5.00m33-6, please mention if this feature is on or off during your test)
Speed Test Results:

8gb in cr-3100:
8gb Kingston MicroSD in cr-3100 on a PSP Slim(2000) :
Class 4; Speed up Memory Access: Off
The_Android


8gb x2 in cr-3100:
8gb Kingston MicroSD x 2 in cr-3100 on a PSP Slim(2000) :
Class 4; Speed up Memory Access: Off
The_Android


16gb x2 in cr-3100:
16gb PQI SDHC x 2 in cr-3100 on a PSP Phat(1000) KoukiMonster


16gb PQI SDHC x 2 in cr-3100 on a PSP Phat(1000)
With FastMod
KoukiMonster


16gb PQI SDHC x 2 in cr-3100 on a PSP Phat(1000)
WithOut FastMod
KoukiMonster


Less Than 4gb in cr-5400:
1gb Sandisk MicroSD in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim (2000) Melan


2gb Adata MicroSD in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim (2000) Melan


2gb Adata MicroSD + 1gb Sandisk MicroSD in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000) Melan


8gb x1 in cr-5400:
8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC in cr-5400 on a PSP Phat(1000)
Class 6; Speed up memory access: OFF
MrFixIt


8gb "Fake" MicroSDHC in cr-5400 on a PSP Phat(1000)
Class 6; Speed up memory access: OFF
MrFixIt


8gb ADATA MicroSD in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000) Melan


8gb Kingston MicroSD in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000)
Class 4; Speed up Memory Access: Off
The_Android


8gb x2 in cr-5400:
8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000)
Class 6; Speed Up Memory Access: ON
Blood_breaker


8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000)
Class 6; Speed Up Memory Access: ON
Blood_breaker


8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000)
Class 6; Speed Up Memory Access: OFF
Blood_breaker


8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000)
Class 6; Speed Up Memory Access: OFF
Blood_breaker


8gb Sandisk + 8gb "Fake" MicroSDHC in cr-5400 on a PSP Phat(1000)
Class 6; Speed up memory access: OFF
MrFixIt


8gb ADATA MicroSD x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000) : Melan


8gb Kingston MicroSD x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000) :
Class 4; Speed up Memory Access: On
The_Android


8gb Kingston MicroSD x2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim(2000) :
Class 4; Speed up Memory Access: Off
The_Android


16gb x2 in cr-5400:
16gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Phat(1000)
Speed Up Memory Access: OFF
TheB1Dude


16gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Phat(1000)
Speed Up Memory Access: ON
TheB1Dude



alright speed testers, we have a new champ "16gb PQI SDHC x2 in CR-3100 on a PHAT" racking in at a whopping 407, the lowest is still "8gb Sandisk MicroSDHC x 2 in cr-5400 on a PSP Slim" with 299.
But remeber thats still 299% better than an Official Sony 32mb!!

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Old 02-18-2009, 04:15 PM
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This looks like a nice idea...
You may want to explain how to test for the noobs and people that generally don't know how... Also, the actual memory stick/microSDHC matters too..
I'll test either two 8GB, two 16GB or one 16GB and one 8GB in a 3100 whenever I get either of those choices..
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:18 PM
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Here are my individual tests.

2gb micro sd adata: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3811/adatavr7.png

1gb micro sd sandisk: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9473/sandisktr7.png

Also, I have a PSP Slim. I'm a bit surprised the adata performed better than the sandisk. I ordered 2 8gb adata micro sdhc class 6 cards today. I'll redo the tests when I receive them in a couple days.

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Old 02-18-2009, 04:20 PM
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Maybe I should get one of these... It's about time that I upgrade my storage
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:48 PM
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from the limited results so far:

it seems that when two mismatching cards are inserted the slower read/write speed will prevail

thanks to melan for the testing

EDIT:

This is my personal reveiw on the set up i got.

i purchased the cr-5400 (the one that goes inside the psp) and first off it doesn't click in to the memory stick reader perfectlly, and because of that it can be difficult to get back out again, other than that it worked as advertised.

i used this "no name micro" card on a phat, it claims to be class 6


everything worked perfect (including games, emulators and iso's) i wouldn't try to pandora it or anything, its not magicgate supported.

although i did notice two other things i didnt like, it seemed like the xmb takes an extra second or two to load when the "no name micro" card is inserted, even with the xmb clock set to 333, and sometimes after a cold boot the xmb will not load unless i remove the memory stick during boot. this always happens after the psp freezes.

so in other words, if my psp freezes (like when you try to play certain videos in psptube) then i must remove the cr-5400 in order to boot again, once booted i then usually need to insert and remove it 2-3 times before it is displayed in the xmb again.

im pretty sure that we (as a community) could come up with an ipl that would remedy this problem because im reasonably sure that the ipl is causing any load errors

speed test results,


==============================EDIT 2======================================

this my new re-review of my cr-5400:

originally i said that the cr-5400 didnt fit perfectly and that i had trouble ejecting it, but after for use it has begun to perform exactly as it should, i guess i had to just break it in.

also i got the boot up errors worked out, it turned out to be a flash 0 problem not a memory stick problem

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Old 02-18-2009, 10:02 PM
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All Memory cards have been formatted using the PSP BEFORE each test...

Test #01
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Adapter Type: CR-5400 (fits in the memory stick slot)
Micro SD Type: MicroSDHC
Micro SD Sizes: 8gb + 8gb (two cards - 16gb Total)
Micro SD Manufacturer: Kingston (Assembled in Japan)
Speed Class: Class 4
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Always
Performance Index: 401
Image: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3918/blackspeed01im1.png

Test #02:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Adapter Type: CR-5400 (fits in the memory stick slot)
Micro SD Type: MicroSDHC
Micro SD Sizes: 8gb + 8gb (two cards - 16gb Total)
Micro SD Manufacturer: Kingston (Assembled in Japan)
Speed Class: Class 4
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 402
Image: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3...speed02tc1.png

Comments:
Same config as above but "Speed up Memory Stick Access": Never
The 'Speed up Memory Stick Access' option doesn't seem to matter...


Test #3
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Adapter Type: CR-5400 (fits in the memory stick slot)
Micro SD Type: MicroSDHC
Micro SD Sizes: 8gb (Single card only)
Micro SD Manufacturer: Kingston (Assembled in Japan)
Speed Class: Class 4
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 401
Image: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/252...speed03de3.png

Comments: using one microSD or two micro SD cards don't seem to affect the speed...

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Test #4
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Adapter Type: CR-3100 (fits on the back of the PSP)
Micro SD Type: MicroSDHC + Full Size SD Adaptor
Micro SD Sizes: 8gb (Single card only)
Micro SD Manufacturer: Kingston (Assembled in Japan)
Speed Class: Class 4
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 394
Image: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/655...speed04pk8.png

Test #5
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Adapter Type: CR-3100 (fits on the back of the PSP)
Micro SD Type: MicroSDHC + Full Size SD Adaptors
Micro SD Sizes: 8gb + 8gb (two cards - 16gb Total)
Micro SD Manufacturer: Kingston (Assembled in Japan)
Speed Class: Class 4
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 394
Image: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3140/blackspeed05wx3.png

Comments: the type of adapter doesn't make a lot of difference, and using a single card or two cards doesn't either...

edit: and heres a pic of the CR-5400 and CR-3100 and the Micro SDHC cards I used
Image: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4061/adaptersbm8.jpg



edit2: and a few tests using real pro duo memory sticks just to compare results...

Test #6:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Memory Stick Type: Pro Duo
Memory Stick Size: 4gb (Blue Memory Stick -- Retail Packaging)
Memory Stick Manufacturer: Sandisk
Magicgate Support: Yes
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 388
Image: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/125...speed06zt8.png

Test #7:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Memory Stick Type: Pro Duo
Memory Stick Size: 1gb (Black Memory Stick -- Retail Packaging)
Memory Stick Manufacturer: Sony
Magicgate Support: Yes
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 308
Image: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/406...speed07ho3.png

Test #8:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Memory Stick Type: Pro Duo
Memory Stick Size: 1gb (Gold Memory Stick, came with my PSP-1000 Media Manager Pack)
Memory Stick Manufacturer: Sony
Magicgate Support: Yes
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 306
Image: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6382/blackspeed08px6.png

Test #9:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Memory Stick Type: Pro Duo
Memory Stick Size: 256mb (Black Memory Stick - Retail Packaging)
Memory Stick Manufacturer: Lexar
Magicgate Support: Yes
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 716 (I ran the test 3 times and got the same result)
Image: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9...speed09es7.png

Test #10:
PSP Type: Slim (PSP-2000) 5.00 M33-6
Memory Stick Type: Duo
Memory Stick Size: 32mb (Silver Memory Stick -- Came with my PSP-1000 Media Manager Pack)
Memory Stick Manufacturer: Sony
Magicgate Support: Yes
Speed up Memory Stick Access: Never
Performance Index: 103
Image: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/903...speed10px0.png


Picture of the Memory Stick Pro Duos I tested:
Image: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9642/produosmh6.jpg

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Old 02-19-2009, 01:47 AM
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thanks android

added your info, greatly appreaciated
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just a really off the wall question for android:

does the cr-3100 recoginize the cr-5400 w/ 2 x 8gb inserted?
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no as the cr-5400 is a memory stick and the cr-3100 is a dual sd card converter
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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oh yea wrong formats

i wasent thinking right
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