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Evangelion: Detects & Freezes w/ Custom Firmware Installed
greg | June 24, 2009
Reported via the fine French folk over at pspgen is a new game, Evangelion: Jo, which apparently detects the presence of whatever custom firmware you may be running. The game starts and immediately hangs at the screen below accompanied by some soft classical music. And this isn’t a simple spoofable version check either; the game actually checks the contents loaded in RAM and should it see something it doesn’t like — it bails.

- source: pspgen
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wow…………….I’m 1st LOL
Wow…… that’s really not good.
While this may be bad news for upcoming games I’m sure we’ll find a solution
I hope DA can do something about this new CFW check. cuz if all devs start using this thats gonna suck! BIG TIME!!!
Hopefully they do this for all PSP games. I have a second PSP which is currently custom firmware but I have no problem switching that to an official firmware PSP.
hypocrite
straight truth
You know it.
its true the more we pirate (iam one) the worst the games well be… maybe its time to start buying some of these games anyway ive pirated so much games and saved so much cash hey y not download the game and test it (to we finish it) and if we like it we buy it! come on theirs not much good games anyway GTA series, god of war,prince of persia series, burn out series,loco roco block party, driver 79 r some of my fav ill have to buy these probably cost me 95 bucks,hey maybe they well make a hitman series and devil may cry and grand turismo (didnt thiz game already come out?)
hey some of us (like me) dont pirate but still have custom firmware simply so we can use homebrew
not all hackers are pirates
I use CFW so I can load the games I bought to my memory stick so a) no loading times and b) don’t have to carry clumsy cd/cartridge type things around. And some homebrew is dece too.
Ditto here – never pirated once, buy 1 or 2 PSP games a month, but I use CFW so I don’t have to lug around discs (and so I can rip my PS1 games onto the PSP). This RAM check does not bode well.
cfw is never a bad thing, brings out all the power of the psp! But remeber if you like something, and want a developer to keep making things like it,,,buy the product!
why the fuck wulld i waste my money on some game that i am gonna probably finish in a day or 2 downloading is way better
It’s faggots like you that are fucking the economy and giving us bad games.
I’m a broke ass jobles smother fucker, and while I’m trying to change that, I haven’t got any cash to spend on games anyhow so I pirate whatever game I damn well feel like.
How in the sweet fuck are you going to blame the economy on software piracy? You’re obviously American if that’s what you think. Couldn’t be big business that’s been pounding you guys in the ass for the past 20 plus years, taht umpossible. Whose economy do you think is driven the most by psp games? American? ok sure you’re retarded.
Yea well if you can’t afford the game you don’t get to play it you self-entitled baby. At least just download snes emulators, ps1 games, etc, stuff that isn’t in production anymore and won’t take money away from the developers. Like the psp needs any LESS official releases.
Oh and yes, Neogen, pirating instead of buying hurts businesses and therefore the economy. There’s more than one factor. A huge part of America’s economy is proprietary software, most manufacturing is outsourced now.
You won’t get any less jobless by sitting around playing stolen games, loser.
FUCK YOU!!!!!
you suck
if no solution is found for this soon, then maybe it works for the best that psp 3k doesnt have pernament customn firmware version.
well the problem with that is that the game probably also runs a check of the files in the flash dir and if you have a cfw installed then its probably going to give you the brown finger (”up yours”)
RockBand Unplugged does something similar…if you compress the iso even at Level 1 compression it freezes at its logo…
no it doesn’t
um, no… because i play it at level 9 cso
WTF?!? then its just my psp and 5 other people i know…doubt it…
No I have it at Level 9 also. Works fine.
Yep, Rock Band works find at level 9 CSO compression. You and your associates are doing something wrong.
fine*
i can vouch for level 9 succession as well
Works for me too.
Use Sony NP9960 as ISO loader, and will be no freezing.
My game lags during difficult songs on expert at level 9 though.
Mine is at level 9 cso and mine works fine. Just your psp
works pretty fine with me
oh my god.. becky look at her butt she looks like the girlfriend of one of those rapper dudes
This is just Great news not
On the plus side, if it’s scanning the RAM, it might be nice if we can find an exploit within the game, giving easier access. I dunno, just spewing dribble here. But still :(
Not really bad news, just return 0’s on all the memory that it checks, effectively blocking it’s detection. Or if that doesn’t work, return what a regular PSP would. Kind of like a wii in gamecube mode for example. There’s a program running outside the gamecube part, but inside the gamecube memory, it cannot detect it.
Or more likely just patch the game to skip all this checking nonsense and just run. It’s probably infeasible to leave the RAM and hardware state exactly as OFW would. Much easier to crack the protection than try to fool it.
yeah…return 0’s on all that it is looking for to block…uh huh..
I may not be very knowledgeable about programming, but usually when I do RAM checks, I am not looking for 0’s… I am looking for a specific string. If CFW = 01001101111…and OFW = 10110111010 reporting back 0’s is going to have the same effect as the CFW…would it not?
Besides, if it is looking through RAM and comparing known OFW versions….you won’t be able to just “hide”…if it checks 100% of the RAM…where do you hide the CFW so you can spoof the correct OFW signature?
The second question would be…if it isn’t scanning 100% of RAM….WHERE is it scanning… I am sure Sony isn’t going to tell us…and it is probably going to be encrypted.
Remember that Flash3? Maybe store CFW in there and keep OFW in Flash0
Not that difficult… nop out the checks, or whenever something looks for data within a certain range of memory addresses, just return that address in a dump of an OFW.
In fact, it could likely be fixed by using CWCheat or a similar utility.
And how do we even know that they are scanning for CFW and not just trying to use memory that the CFW has to allocate to run? There may even be a bug in the CFW itself…
As time goes by, I’m still not amused by any histerically hypped title officially available for my handheld, so this information doesnt’ have such tragical tone, as first three comments make it sound like. Besides that I do remember many security systems being aplied by many different companies in the past just to be cracked in short time by hacking community. And I do not talk about only PSP and Sony now, PC games developers had to ditch all of their antipiracy measures so far as they did not prevent pirates from stealin the product they suppose to protect and actually made many of legitimate customers mad, after they could not install the game they just paid for in the Best Buy more than twice or such blemish. Many plp I know didnt want to use pirated software, but after they had to call to the company for a new serial number everitime they want to reinstall their copy of the game, they just simply gave up and stopped giving them their hard earned $$$. Other issue I have with the games we suppose to pay for on PSP is that it’s a piece of code questionable quality you have to dish out $50.00 a piece for with no return policy in case you just dont’ like the product. What is up with that? You buying a sweather in K-Mart, you dont’ like it, you bring it back in three monts with no receipt and they are still able to refund your purchase. And be frank guys – how many games they trying to sell is really worth that fifty bucks? If maybee five titles so far, and even that might be a stretch. Simply put – they will not be able to sell more games even if they put this new security feature on them. They just have to start making better games and change the policy and prices.
And now you can flame me hard, because this is controversial topic indeed. Thank you for your time.
making better games is NOT going to stop piracy, and it never will.
Games will ALWAYS be pirated.Its just something we have to deal with.
And worse case scenario here, it could be solved simply by unloading CFW modules when launching a game.
Or of course, patching ISOs, and maybe changing the custom firmware enough so that its not recognized
he didn’t say it’ll stop piracy but i do agree with him… putting anti-piracy won’t give them more sales… making better games will… besides piracy
maybe sony should make new UMD’s tht can hold like 7 gigs and then people would stop pirating becuase they cant fit them on the MS lol
ever heard of an 8 or 16gb ms.
you would still be paying at least 60 – 70 bucks just to have a game to be played via ms. might as well just buy the actual game.
but then you can delete that game and.. know what nevermind.
lol
I’ve yet to see a $50 PSP game. Little Big Planet and Gran Turismo Portable are $50 at Amazon, but it’s nothing more than speculation.
Your rant is nothing more than excuse as to why you pirate PSP games. PSP games don’t require serial number codes like PC games do. Just like PSP games, all other games(DS, GBA, 360, PS3, Wii, GC, etc) all have no return guarantee(just like DVDs.)
There are those of you who will say “you download because you want to try it out,” but we all know that’s a load of bullshit as once you complete the game we all know you’re not going to purchase it. Just more excuses to pirate and make the few games the PSP actually gets even fewer.
This year the PSP has been amazing for the very few games it gets it’s got quite a bit of good games. Even more releasing later this year. Hopefully every PSP game has this type of safeguard and hopefully it’s not able to be hacked because these gaming companies might actually get some of the money they actually deserve.
Actually, when I download them I buy them afterwards so I can support the game company so they can make more great games, Like Monster Hunter Freedom UNITE. I downloaded the Jap version so I could see the next game of the series and I’m buying it today at GameCrazy anyways. So there are a few that do buy the games
How are you supporting the game devloper when you are buying it used from gamecrazy? Game developers dont get any money from used game sales…
you’re an idiot, he never said anything about buying a used copy for one. for two MHFU is a brand new game, I highly doubt you’re going to find it used already.
lol awsome now we have a problem with pirates AND people who buy used games! This is one of the funniest threads i’ve seen…this game will not be the norm, and if it is there will be “cracks” in the iso. If this sorta check was to become the norm, then cfw would not be able to play any “legitimate” form of the new games…who would that really hurt? The pirate community, “Well i guess i might as well “steal” all games because if i buy one it will just brick my psp.
think people think
I understand what your ranting bout but have you noticed YOUR ON FUCKIN PSP-HACKS.COM if you read in the fuckin user agreement your not even supposed to have your psp modded. so even if u dont download you games and only have it hacked for homebrew your just as unloyal as everyone else for breaking that agreement you made with sony when you bought the psp.
further more in these times not everyone is fourtunate enough to be able to buy that super cool game sony comes out with everytime it drops so for them to download it is a blessing for them. if you havent notice where in a recession and 30 bucks a month just to get one umd adds up thats 360 a year in ase u didnt know some people cant afford that expense.
so next time yo wanna rant and jump on sonys dick do it in the right forum not on psp-hacks your just as bad if not worse than one of those “omg im first” comment posters.
It’s not a matter of loyalty, downloading free homebrew games hurts no-one, it doesn’t matter if it’s against Sony’s “rules” if you have a few homebrew programs then you buy games, everyone comes out fine.
You, >N@T3 sir, are win.
If you can’t afford any fucking game (shit man it’s just $360 a year), then you have more problems than trying to play ISOs on your PSP.
Ai only buy games ai download that are worth mai money… Download, try it, if ai don’t like it ai never play again, if ai do like it ai buy it.
Then there are the people who buy the games, but keep the originals safely stored away, and play copies from the memory stick. Keeps them safe, avoids having to carry a bunch of discs around and switch between them all the time, and extends battery life.
Not to mention when you get silly protections like this, that make it so a legit copy running from UMD won’t work, but a cracked copy running from a memory stick will. Great job there guys.
I lol’d
You have an AI downloading your games? Awesome. Is it an heuristic neural network?
I downloaded Final Fantasy 9, beat it, went and bought the game and the soundtrack to it. N64 games on the other hand, I still pirate those. Rrrrrr matey! PS– Never pirated 1 PSP game!
I bought my first PSP game for $60 and it was one of the cheaper games out at the time. And you wanna talk about expensive, look at Sony’s memorystick pro duo, comperable memory cards cost significantly less for some reason, I wonder how they justify that. Anyway, back to the psp game, beat it in several hours sitting at work, one sitting and there was no replay value whatsoever, that’s a days wage when you live under the poverty line and I beat it in less time than that. I pirate because I feel molested by Sony and prefer throwing my money in that big hole in my backyard. For the most part everything I do is non-legit, it’s a way of life, big business can go fuck itself in the poopchute.
So yeah, sit on your high horse as I’m sure you can afford to, meanwhile minimum wage keeps getting closer and closer to my current wage and soon I’ll be making less than toothless rednecks on welfare.
I pirate, it’s illegal, I’m a criminal, but at least I can afford to eat AND have entertainment this way.
For those of us unfortunate enough to have a broken UMD drive, running games on the memory stick is the next best thing. Trust me, I would I personally own every Metal Gear game that came out on the PSP, and now I can’t play them because of the stupid drive (maybe it was my fault, but still). For people like me, cfw is the only other option.
that “I would I…” thing came out wrong, but whatever.
I would call this the WTF app
Is the game any good but?
Its fully playable using CWCheat, just looks my gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UjDtVPPwLY&fmt=18
Ok would it not be smarter for sony to implement activation/registration of said product rather than sabotaging customers hardware? I for one buy my games and I own 3 psps at this point. But I still enjoy the ability to use open source software so sabotage of your customers hardware is inexcusable. Sony needs to start an activation database to protect the loyal customer as well as themselves. This article is about pure laziness on Sonys part instead of all the updates just make games inert without strict online registration I for one wouldn’t mind. Sony has used psp-hacks and sites alike purely for R&D purposes and they should be advocating open source software. As coders become more numerous they are in fact the future customer just give them the tools they need and they will continue to pay through the nose for them.
This plan works for everyone.
-TKG
People don’t always have access to the internet with their psp. A lot of people play their psp while on the go or on a trip so don’t have access to the internet.
Online activation = sony losing business
^^This
Not to mention registering online everytime just so you can play a cruddy game would be pain in the ass. This would also mean noone could rent any games. Eventually hackers would find a way to trick the game. In the end nobody would win.
Worst. Idea. Ever. >:U
Hey possible similar situation with the new Dynasty Strike Force game, it wont even load on any of my psp’s. And I have tried everything from 3.90 to the 5.03 Gen A on my 3000 model. If anyone has had any progress with either title feel free to share. ;)
Dynasty Warriors works 100% fine on my 1000 with 5.00 m33. If you tried all those cfw versions its gotta be a bad file or your 3000 model.
Sony needs to go fck themselves and then come back with a brain i only give them credit 4 making the best damn gaming system the psp if they’d get a fcking clue about wtfs going on they’d now wtf 2 do
Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.
funny, how they started doing this with a low pro game
sounds like we need a revamped fastloader for OFW..
most japanese games release this year has some security on them well atleast could play Idol Master SP now on my CFW throught patching the iso
But right im having problems trying to play finder love fumi hara has anyone been able to play this game on there CFW
IF you have a pandora and a MMS this realy doesn’t affect you as it only takes a couple of minutes to switch from CFW to OFW, especially if you use DC8 to back up your nand.
Well, I don’t see why because the game doesn’t even look interesting.
This game is already hacked. Someone said that there’s a hack for it with CWcheat, so I think even psp 3000’s will be able to play this.
but it runs on ofw so isn’t 3000 able to run it regardless?
have you tried m33driver(better one) or oefisos from pspmenu select or you just have a bad import from the game.
hmmm, I wonder if you can spoof the mac address on the psp if you could kinda spoof the firmware make it read as if it’s an offical firmware.
Really folks, copyright infringement won’t be stopped, but it is worth the company’s time to make it as difficult as possible so as to prevent as much of it as possible (I don’t like the word piracy for the act, it is simply not the same thing)
The user agreement is pretty hard to enforce, if taken to court, Sony would loose. CI is illegal in pretty much every country, but backing up your own games is legal in most.
If you want to play a game, buy it. If you want homebrew use it, but don’t deny the developers there reward for their work. It makes them less likely to make games, and is NOT justified by “I can’t afford it, it’s too expensive”. I can’t afford a copy of a PS3 dev kit or a Rolls Royce, so I don’t have them, capitalism is what it is. If you do try then buy games, then write to companies that you would like to see more demos. Let them know that you do use CFW and that would be one more reason not to bother.
Don’t be so arrogant that your little bit of free use of someone else’s work doesn’t affect how much money they make. CI isn’t theft, but if it is something you would buy, then your just preventing more of that type of thing being made.
Resistance Retribution is awesome, but the numbers I see say only 130,000 copies were sold. I would like to see more games like that, but with the cost of development,(even accounting for the old code used) I doubt we will see something like that again unless they come up with a much more secure way to prevent CI.
Choose to do whats right, not just what is easy. I myself only have games on my system that I have bought, but I would put a game on to check it. I put my own movies on, but if I can find a movie on UMD that I like, I buy it. Even with how hard it is to get the movies, tracking them down on-line because no one carries them anymore. (All of the underworlds, Across the Universe, Dark Side of the Moon, and many more)
Reward good work, don’t just keep your money for an extra two cases of beer or a quarter.
Good speech.
If you can’t set aside $30 a month to fund your gaming, piracy is not an excuse. He’s right. If your budget is truly THAT tight, you wouldn’t have the money to pay your internet bill which enables you to STEAL these games. Just manage your money better.
Yeah and with my crap $2 weekly pay I will never get an UMD. :(
Yeah and how did you afford your PSP with $2 a week? Hmmm..
I bought my last psp for $20 as it was bricked, then loaded cfw on it using a friend’s system to put my battery into service mode and made my own mms using my computer(actually made the mms before I had access to the modded psp as I was anxious).
For the record, I steal my internet. Cheers to piracy! Down with big business!
Some of us aren’t of age to have a job and don’t have ANY type of income. Hello?! Not everyone who owns a P.ortable S.uper P.ie is 18 or older, which seems to be the usual working age. Us younger people love having the psp but asking for $50 everytime a new game comes out would take away money for anything else we might want. I’m sure you heard this before but “I pirate games because I can’t afford to buy them…”. Sure I buy legit games once in a while but I can’t steadily ask for more money right after I just begged for $50+tax for a game that has little to no replay value, if I want to play it again. That’s all I’m saying. PS- I’m 16 1/2, yay school!
oh M***********!! if this goes on to all games!! s***!! thats a total bUmmer.. especially to us ChickHEN users!! dT_Tb
i personnaly dont care what anyone thinks on here. i mean, does it really matter? we all do what we want regardless so i dont think any speech can sway our minds about this issue. game companies are other people. worry about yourselfs.
No it doesn’t matter, but I do so love to talk smack about people that give us shit over piracy. They can afford to buy the games, and if they care about Sony so much maybe they should send them donations to cover my piracy of games I wouldn’t even play if pirated psp games wasn’t an option.
Doesn’t really matter to me… it’s been so long since there was a PSP game I care about, I use mine pretty much exclusively for homebrew and Web browsing.
It’s all simple really.. the ethics for pirate gaming that is.
1. If the companies can make it, they will overcharge for it.
2.If it has been made, we’ll find a way to “borrow it”
3.If they make good quality games, then the more honourable ones WILL actually buy a game now and again to keep the industry alive, BUT, they will never stop pirating because the developers get greedy. and right away over react when we find ways against society’s views of right and wrong.
Don’t label people who arent all rich fucks as thieves and ingrates, we appreciated quality and the hard work that goes in just as much as the next consumer. but we’re not all high paid work monkeys with the spare cash to spend $60 on some game that may or may not be worth the money. This goes for all systems as well. The DS specifically (more fucking kiddie games now then a bloody carnival).
The simple solution: PRICE THINGS LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE JACKASSES.
That or they should meet us halfway at least, ot take legal action on every single pirate. Not so generous but still plausible option, points system. Buy games, stick some codes from box online or wutever after like 2-3 games get a free one. most people would be stupid enough for that to keep them happy for a good couple of years.
Also .. and now this is just cuz i can say it. Xbox in general sucks ass, Wii controllers dont respond well (therefore games cost to much for an incomplete system), DS games are for frickin 7 year olds usually or from movies -_-, and Sony.. well they have good quality but they charge way too fucking much. $500+ for a console and $200+ for a handheld is TOO MUCH MONEEY…
Yes they left me with, hm, let me see, $5.
They’re just an bunch of **bleep**ed people.
WT* an PSPgo = $250?!
PS3 = $500?!!!
New version of devhook?
Firstly if the greedy fucks didnt charge as much for games they wouldnt have as big a problem in the first place. Developers just got greedy, if every game was $5 then maybe a lot less people would pirate.
Secondly as everyones has said, theres only a handfull of games worth parting with $50 for.The umd cases dont even protect disks, they actually trap dirt and i have many games that no longer work properly.
Lastly sony r stupid idiots, they r yet again to release another version of the psp with no umd drive, STILL NO SECOND ANALOG STICK AND ITS FUCKING MORE EXPENSIVE.
SONY HAS ONE BIG STUPID FUCKING RABBIT AT THE CONTROLS.
FIRE THE FUCKING RABBIT.
10 to 1 odds say the shity companies that make pirate bait game(the games not worth buying but are time passers) are going to do this, but the big one like sqaure-enix, EA, ect might not do this becuase thay get alot of sales, like square enix and thir recent rip-off tactics on FFXI,they may not even worry about it too much
I would not B so surprised if I learn that Sony Corp. has a major financial problems and going under. Get ready for that news guys.
Just saying.
laughing my hole off, Sony makes more money off hardware alone than they’d ever dream of making off of games. If Sony does go under I seriously doubt it would be due to game piracy. I imagine they underpay the fuck out of game developers for titles aswell, which I’m sure puts them well into the green even after piracy.
Well with some of $ony’s business practices lately I’m not suprised Piracy has taken off. I mean encouraging manufacturers to NOT include Infrastructure in their game just so $ony can TRY to force you to buy a PS3 and use adhoc Party (Which is not available outside Japan)! They keep that crap up and they’ll go the way of Atari. Then there is that PSP Go travesty, sorry all you UMD buyers! HaHa got yo money!!
It really is about pricing. Man I remember at launch when umd movies were 12 to 13 dollars.
My thought process at the time was.
1- umd = psp only bad
2- small screen no tv acsess bad
3- suround sound?
4- no specieal feachers bad
5- dvd quality good
6- portability good
So clearly umd is the cheaper product adiquitly priced as such, so should I go for 13$ umd compared to 20$+ dvd. Its obviuos umd = win at that price.
I go three weeks latter to see whats new and the same movie I got for 13$ was now selling for 20$ to wich I had the same thought process. Except it ended with clearly umd is the cheaper product why price it the same as a dvd in that case ill just get a dvd with mor featchers, Why pay more fore less.
Witch brings me to my point sony is terible at pricing. brand new umd games should never have been more then 30$ at best. Over pricing invites pirating sony wont understand that.And trying to put bugs in games like this one will only make hackers patch it and life will go on. It will only make them loose consumer pirates those that actually buy games even with cfw.
CFW 5.50 GEN-B is up and good for download. One of the details says that it can now play Evangelion: Jo without using the CWCheat Game Initialization Code.