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November 27, 2007
Daedalus R14 — Updated N64 Emulator Progress

Posted by greg

At last — worthwhile news! StrmnNrmn sharing his latest progress report on the seemingly controversial Nintendo 64 Emulator, known as Daedalus. StrmnNrmn goes on to detail R14’s audio upsampling code, which is now working on the PSP’s Media Engine (ME). Another feature will be the new UI font rendering using BenHur’s recently released intraFont library. Check out the example below.

Daedalus intraFont rendering

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159 Comments »

    Comment by Cbass182
    2007-11-27 03:17:37

    good to see this is getting consistent updates. Keep up the good work.

    Comment by anon42134
    2008-04-03 18:13:13

    Honestly guys, he’s spending his own time for the “good” of the PSP community (apparently you guys dont agree). If you don’t like the emulator or care, don’t download or use it. It’s as simple as that. Until somone else comes out with something better, you retards should probably keep your mouths shut

     
     
    Comment by hutzilopochtli
    2007-11-27 03:20:25

    this emulator sucks

    Comment by DSpider
    2007-11-27 05:43:30

    Give it some time.

    Comment by PimpMatt
    2007-11-28 19:27:58

    all emulators suck at first it makes it proof it can play roms but after a few years from updates they start working perfect but always will have bugs.

     
    Comment by ojjijw
    2007-11-28 20:20:38

    DICK

     
     
    Comment by TheKrimzonGhost
    2007-11-27 05:46:31

    as we keep on saying…if you think you can do better than lets see your version. your nothing but a spoiled brat…

    -TKG

    Comment by DayLeeUs
    2007-11-27 13:51:11

    Another idiot comment by some little spotty gimp. Wheres your version then sunny ?

    Exactly Thuck All to say………..

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-27 13:59:52

    its about this emulator not anyone else’s.. yeah and it does suck ass.

    Comment by kamil
    2007-11-27 17:55:31

    thank u ASD. seriously, it sucks. and don’t count on this ever working. it’s rediculous how much ass you guys kiss because someone made this. just because he’s wasting HIS time on this, doesn’t mean we should worship him for trying. it sucks and no updates should have been made in at least the last three “updates”

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    Comment by Shinryu
    2007-11-27 18:22:48

    The hell is your problem, kamil? Of course it sucks now. He hasn’t utilized the ME yet. It should theoretically run faster now that he’s going to use it.

     
    Comment by kev
    2007-11-27 20:48:38

    there is one thing you stupid pricks need to realize about this emulator: the PSP can only run up to 333mhz. Emulating a console, persay, requires around 10 times the original CPU power of the console itself. The N64 was 94mhz. Do the math, 94 * 10 = 940mhz. does the psp run at such clock speed? no. Do you realize how much optimization has been made to make the PSP even LOAD these games? apparently not if all you can do is complain. shut up.

     
    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 01:45:48

    i’ll do what i please i dont need a your lecturing, if someone cant reverse engineer something right then dont do it at all.. whats the point of playing something if it dosent even run right.. your brain must run as slow as this emulator does. untill then i will keep saying what ever i want.

     
    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:00:50

    I’m sorry, but get a life all you people who post to just say it sucks. It isn’t full speed, no - but it is approaching it.

    If you knew how you make an emulator you’d know its not to do with reverse engineering.

    So, get a life, and stop posting just to say “It sucks”. I’d like to see you little maggots do better.

    Cloudy

     
    Comment by icet925
    2007-11-28 14:50:41

    to those who say it sucks..
    you guys shouldn’t play it when it can actually comes out in full speed since you gave no support whatsoever

     
    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 16:05:52

    After having been the driving force behind Australia’s net censorship legislation, Federal Minister Richard Alston must have been relieved to announce a piece of legislation that won’t infuriate the country’s technology sector. Australia’s Copyright Amendment (Computer Programs) Bill 1999 will allow software engineers to decompile computer software in limited circumstances so they can develop interoperable products. At present, copyright owners can block such reverse engineering on the grounds that it infringes their copyright. Because such decompilation forms part of the work that needs to be done to address the year 2000 problem, the legislation is backdated to February 23, 1999

    Endorses Reverse Engineering, Emulators

    gee i must not have a life because i dont know what reverse Engineering… you must be 11 years old.. well get your iformation right before posting something stupid.

     
    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 16:22:15

    However, in an unusual turn of events Team Wildcard, who had been working on reverse engineering 3.10 and 3.40 OE firmware

    i guess nintendo 64 dosent count as a system…hm…

     
    Comment by ASD BLOWS ME
    2008-01-13 21:49:56

    ITS ASD”S TIME OF MONTH THATS ALL

     
     
     
     
     
    Comment by Michael Gooden
    2007-11-28 01:03:44

    Agree’d, fuck this emulator and fuck StrmnNrmn.
    Just give up on this N64 emulator, if you can’t do a good job don’t do it at all.

    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:01:06

    No, fuck you.

     
    Comment by DaniPoo
    2007-11-30 18:49:57

    Hey! Are you stupid?! This guy is doing a great job! And there are people that belive and hope that they will be able to play their favorite N64 games with Daedalus in a newer version! I really think guys like you who jusst paint everything ugly with your big bullshit talk could go somwhere else. You know what? Make an better n64 emulator for PSP yourself! I dubt you would do it. So dont complain about his job. And he is doing this for free. That means… ITS HIS HOBBIE!!! NOT HIS LIFE!!!

     
     
    Comment by Michael Gooden
    2007-11-28 01:05:27

    Also, most of the games on that list don’t even work, and the ones that do run at 2-6 fps.

    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:01:46

    Mario 64 runs almost full speed :) How’s that for 2-6 fps?

    Comment by Michael Gooden
    2007-11-28 14:58:39

    Right, there is only one game on that list that can ALMOST run at full speed…
    and this is what… the 14th version…

     
     
     
    Comment by moex
    2008-01-15 00:55:48

    NINTENDO ASSWIPE r12 and 13 run well

     
    Comment by daniel
    2008-04-04 14:08:27

    well jackass why dont you try to make a 100% perfect nintendo 64 emulator, and then you can comment on other peoples work, he does this for the good of the homebrew scene and i for one am really happy, so far after a couple of years i can play ocarina of time, and yes it has flaws but that cant be helped so either make a new n64 emu or kiss my fucking ass and let StrmnNrmn make the homebrew that little bit better

     
     
    Comment by Joe
    2007-11-27 03:22:59

    Cool, use chinese font for all I care. This release actually gonna work?

    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:02:14

    Always has worked.

    Comment by kugkgukgu
    2007-11-28 23:53:40

    uh, give that shit up. you don’t have to be fuckin ignorant just because you back up the emulator. by “work” he obviously meant run better.

     
     
     
    Comment by C_firoth
    2007-11-27 03:23:14

    I hope it can emulate Conquer this time.

     
    Comment by maddskillsz
    2007-11-27 03:25:05

    ^ den y don’t u make one.

    No appreciation. Awesome stuff StrmnNrmn, keep it up

    Comment by Joe
    2007-11-27 03:26:03

    Make one what? 14 releases of something that doesn’t do anything?

    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:03:06

    It works fine :) The most you’d be able to manage would be 20 releases, and the 20th release will finally show a menu saying “quit”.

     
     
     
    Comment by millsskills
    2007-11-27 04:46:05

    TO: (hutzilopochtli) and (JOE)… NO YOU SUCK, NO ONE can say SHIT about the work StrmnNrmn has done, maybe you newbs should come out with a better version if you think its soo easy, keep up the good work StrmnNrmn

    Comment by zachary
    2007-11-27 11:18:09

    dude y get worked up on retards? i sey yeay r14 ive used this emu sence r9 and it gets better every realese

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 01:57:12

    damn your brain must be slow to.

    Comment by ASD BLOWS ME
    2008-01-13 21:48:30

    ASD SUCKS MY DICK HE”S A LOW _LIFE WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THEN TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EMULATOR THAT ARE ALMOST AWESOME

    GO FUCK URSELF ASD

    Comment by ASD IS 4REAL
    2008-01-20 17:50:14

    mad shut the fuck up. this emulator hasnt gotten better since r9. the speed is fuckall on all the games. i used to admire strmnnrmn but after i noticed that the emulator speeds are all the same i started to believe that all he did was change the number of the version in the GUI, to make us retards think it is a new release. WHO gives a Shit about what kind of text is in the menu, or what the fuck icons it has. the emulator is a piece of SHIT and will never get better. and dont tell me to make my own emulator either because im not wasting my time working on some shit that doesnt work properly

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    Comment by kugkgukgu
    2007-11-28 23:56:27

    yes, people can say shit about the emulator all they want actually. and you can’t do ANYTHING about it. nothing. if there are problems with it people will criticize it. that’s all there is to it. so once a perfect emulator comes out people will shut up. that’s all there is to it.

     
     
    Comment by evil
    2007-11-27 04:48:16

    Lol he releases it to the public so we are free to give negative feedback all we want. It could help him to improve certain aspects that we want as well.

     
    Comment by hawkeye18455
    2007-11-27 05:19:28

    there’s a difference between negative feedback and constructive criticism…you guys should be thankful that he’s been working on this at all.

    GREAT JOB, StrmnNrmn…at least there are some of us that really appreciate your hard work

     
    Comment by deadpan
    2007-11-27 05:42:06

    i to wish mario cart would just run a little faster, but you have to realize that he’s doing it on his own free time for his love of it, when all he hears from you low life’s is “its slow” or “it sucks”
    you think that makes him want to work harder on it?, or spend more of his free time you a bunch of ingrates? truth be told i would perfect it and only release a video. them have all you dimwits beg for it.

    Comment by ...
    2007-11-27 15:10:03

    kinda like 3.71 M33, eh? Just they din’t release a vid. lol

     
    Comment by Hitmanthe3rd
    2007-11-27 17:44:23

    Dude Mario Kart Runs full speed. If u put the framekip to 1 its fullspeed

    Comment by Kyle
    2008-01-29 19:07:10

    damn son ur brain must be hella slow if you think mario kart runs at full speed. so far, no games are anywhere near running full speed

     
     
     
    Comment by Mexas
    2007-11-27 06:39:13

    thanks mate keep up the good work dont listen to the negetive people i would like to see them do better

     
    Comment by dave
    2007-11-27 06:58:14

    I fully understand everyones comments on this, doing it in his own time, putting up with shit, and ofcouse, $%^& its a great app.

    Though, all programs need work, updates ect, a font change would be one of the last things i would do. (now start saying “make one ya self”) 14 updates, with no big improvement to emulation, only adding stuff, which later on will make the program better “savestates”, ofcourse ppl are going to cry.

    StrmnNrmn, wait till its GOD, then release it.

     
    Comment by Sonic is da shit
    2007-11-27 07:27:38

    So does this run any games close to full speed? I’ve never given it a shot because of all the negative comments, but fuck it I’m going to try it out anyway :P Can someone suggest some roms that work with Daedalus? Thanks

    Comment by Sonic is da shit
    2007-11-27 08:07:59

    Well I just tried Mario Kart 64, and am nicely surprised that it actually runs and is quite playable. Is there a compatibility thread around somewhere?

     
     
    Comment by The Dude
    2007-11-27 08:10:13

    You are doing a very good work StrmnNrmn, thanks!

     
    Comment by cody
    2007-11-27 08:23:15

    Why would you even comment if all your going to say is garbage.

    Good job on the update.

     
    Comment by johnnsen
    2007-11-27 09:08:03

    If you can make the emulator running Extreme G with sound, you will be my hero!

    Good luck with your work and thank you very much.

    And dont listen to the retards saying its shit. its great.

     
    2007-11-27 10:11:58

    Actually, some games do work. It about trial and error. I got Cruis’n World to work.

     
    Comment by Dark_AleX
    2007-11-27 10:21:46

    constructive criticism…..I agree w/ some of u…dont release new versions unless some real progress is made. Savestates or Font?? no no….that should b the last thing…First get a rom working, then work on savesates. Cuz they’re no good if no games are gonnna work. Would be enuff w/ just an ‘update’ on how this app is doing. Dont realease practically the same version w/ just a different #. I’ll put down the ps3 when the day comes that ANY of the TUROK games becomes playable….heck or even boot up to the title screen or hear some choppy sound(s). Keep it up.

    Comment by GOOD WORK
    2007-11-27 10:34:41

    Very well spoken! you might be the real DAX.

    but all i gots to say is “my kingdom for a %100 goldeneye rom”

     
    Comment by RIKU_X3
    2007-11-27 19:00:15

    You fail you DAX rip off, if you had any level of reading comprehension skills AT ALL you would know that along with the save state update, almost all games got a 15% speed up.

     
     
    Comment by Paddy
    2007-11-27 10:23:41

    i dont beleve in porting an exsisting emu that will only run on a highend pc,what kind of frame rate do you expect and on top of that you cant really optimize said emu to the extent we all want ,so yeh it can be cleaned up and some more games may become playable with memory handling but its not the real deal ,this is the reason theres no main improvments between releases.

    when the psp me media engine is used we will prolly see a nice speed up but now that StrmnNrmn has done so much with deadalus
    i think it would be a top idea for him to start over and create an n64 emu for psp that is writen for psp ,he must have a very good understanding of both psp and n64 now.

    StrmnNrmn would get all my respect , time and donation for a hardcoded psp n64 emu.

    but i still think he rocks

    Comment by RIKU_X3
    2007-11-27 19:02:58

    PJ 64 IN NO WAY needs a high end PC to run. I use a 6 year old laptop with a pentium 3 and 256 GB ram, so you must be using QUITE an old computer if you have trouble running it.

    Comment by Bobby
    2007-11-29 09:17:15

    If you got 256 GB ram, I’d say your computer is kinda high end…

    Comment by Schindler
    2008-02-25 16:05:52

    lol i think he means 256 mb ram, or 256 gb hdd, but still the psp only has what around 32 mb of ram? and the prosseser clock speed is what 333mz wile overclocked? im not critasizeing u bobby… i agree with u….. 256 gb of ram is a high end comp for im usein 1 with only 1 gb ram!

     
     
     
    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:06:26

    It is coded for PSP - it’s practically rewritten. The only emulator he ported was his own, and I guarantee that barely any code exists from the X76 version.

     
     
    Comment by KingPepper
    2007-11-27 10:52:25

    He is Now working on the Sound side of things if you just read his BLOG on his web site, on the HLE Code on the ME Audio Chip built into our PSP’s, in doing that, its taking some of the Burden off of the CPU itself, and so in theory this should make the emulator abit Faster.
    The Save States were made because it makes the Problem Solving alot quicker to pinpoint the Bugs, instead of having to re-start at the beginning of a Game each time, he can Load a Save Point and find out why the Game Crashes or the graphics go wrong at that point, see now why he made that, when he did……..Hope that clears things up slightly, for all the Noobs out there……….:o)

    Comment by Newten5
    2007-11-27 17:27:41

    That makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining that KingPepper!

     
     
    Comment by KingPepper
    2007-11-27 10:58:39

    if you want to Play Goldeneye, try the latest version of Project64 1.7 on your PC, its running at 90% Speed now of the Original Game, just amazing…………:o)

    Comment by DSpider
    2007-11-27 12:38:46

    And use RemoteJoy to play it on the PSP. Well, actually… with the PSP.

    Configure the buttons in Project64, and use the PSP as a joypad. lol

    (I never tried it, tho… in theory, it should work)

     
     
    Comment by gunkeroola
    2007-11-27 13:04:16

    “The Save States were made because it makes the Problem Solving alot quicker to pinpoint the Bugs”…

    Thats what we keep telling these yobs, but do they listen? Or even remember it the next time they feel like bitching? I’m not so sure.

     
    Comment by Jibberwockee
    2007-11-27 13:06:45

    Just use Project64. Goldeneye runs at full speed on that one. Perfect Dark as well.

    Comment by Jibberwockee
    2007-11-27 13:08:16

    Wait.. P64’s what yeh said… Nevermind :P

     
     
    Comment by WebMan161
    2007-11-27 13:23:33

    Does anyone know any kind of emulator that will play Stunt Racer 64. Project64 never will open it and I have downloaded 5 different versions of the rom?

    Thanks

    Comment by ...
    2007-11-27 15:18:20

    try 1964 emu. It’s rather decent. if pj64 doesn’t work, 1964 usually does.

     
     
    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-27 14:05:52

    oh!!! here we are again.. lest make sound so when thay play there games thay can go out of there minds, lissening to skiping games hahaha!! i’ve allways wanted to hear zelda new skiping sound track.. woow!! man im so gald you made this so i can blow my brains out.

    Comment by Cloudhunter
    2007-11-28 06:08:25

    You fucking retard. You don’t understand the media engine at all.

    With this done, the sound won’t affect the performance of the actual emulator, as it’s running on another CPU.

    So go and get a fucking life you stupid retard.

    Cloudy

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-29 03:06:10

    sure, sure, it problably runs in your ass hole..thats why it sounds like shit. LOL!!!

    Comment by Jesus Christ
    2007-12-01 02:00:51

    lmfao. good one ASD lmfao!

     
     
     
    Comment by L
    2007-11-28 17:02:41

    Seriously, if you’re gonna bash him for all of his hard work, why bother? This is why coders leave the scene. This is why they quit they’re work, or keep it private or for personal use. I can’t stand people like you. You’re foolish, and unappreciative.
    It’s pretty sad that after all this work, you can do nothing but put him down, and say that his work is useless.

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-29 03:43:44

    im just saying it sucks right now…. when it runs at full speed.. i’ll even make a donation. pluss its fun talking shit, look at all the posts.. brings people together.. shits and giggles. ;p

    Comment by L
    2007-11-30 14:44:19

    I… guess….

    Either way, I disagree with you. I don’t think it sucks. But it is far from perfect on most games, but StrmnNrmn has made INCREDIBLE progress, and I truly believe he’ll obtain perfection. Or at least get close enough that a 1-2 frameskip with sound will be perfect. A while back let’s see… Around R8 or something, I was the same as you, saying it’d always be crap, but I have to say, he’s changed my mind.

    Regards,
    L.

     
     
     
     
    Comment by Hitmanthe3rd
    2007-11-27 17:48:06

    OK game list:
    Mario Kart - Full speed Frameskip-2
    Legend of zelda: Playable Cant get into shop tho = ( Frameskip 2
    Majoras mask- lol Playable with the other things like dramatic off.
    Super smash- Very playable framskip 2
    Mario 64 - framsekip 2 practically full speed

    Thats what Iv all tried Im sure more work but thats what I got so far.

     
    Comment by kamil
    2007-11-27 17:50:45

    i don’t want to be one of those guys who says the programs the developers make are crap…but seriously. i don’t understand why it’s worth getting excited for something that is most likely not going to work….in a very very very very long time. I mean its the 14th now…and as far as they have gotten is to let it not even play a game half decently, with skipping sound…and how long has it been?? over a year? I’m just sayin that it wouldnt be surprising if they finally got it to work with A FEW games, in like a year or even longer. by then a lot better products will come out.

    sorry to those who are gonna go “ur a spoiled brat bitch blah blah blah” save it, i really don’t care. this is just nothing to get excited about…at all. but it is quite an accomplishment to creat an N64 emulator for the psp nonetheless.

    Comment by Hitmanthe3rd
    2007-11-27 18:35:05

    You are now “One of those guys”

     
    Comment by RIKU_X3
    2007-11-27 19:07:12

    As the guy RIGHT ABOVE YOU SAID, Mario 64, Mario Kart, and SSB all run full speed with 2 frame skips, sounds like a “few” games to me. By working on the ME you wont have sound problems. You can make it run where even if the game goes slow, it can still run the sounds at a normal non skipping speed.

     
     
    Comment by Jibberwockee
    2007-11-27 19:06:33

    Still tho, if you guys think it’ll never work then why bother posting? Is something that sucks so bad really worth your time? I thank people just like excuses to type profanely because it’s so fun. Observe; FUCKSHITDAMN!!! …Wheee that was fun. …. …

     
    Comment by xarek
    2007-11-27 19:31:20

    I don’t understand why people are complaining. N64 emulation shouldn’t have been attempted in the first place. But at least StrmnNrmn proved that it is somewhat possible.

    The whole point of homebrew is to show what the PSP is capable of. Maybe one day it would be full speed (by looking at mario64 its getting pretty close), but chances are it would never happen considering how limited the PSP’s hardware is.

    So, no matter how little a speed increase Daedalus gets, its good progress.

    Comment by Kuzay
    2007-11-29 22:10:18

    Since when is the whole point of homebrew to show the psp’s capabilities? it was my understanding people wanted to run applications and use them, not sit down and be impressed it could, else we would just watch videos of work online, rather than downloading them and playing them ourselves.

     
     
    Comment by L
    2007-11-27 20:02:56

    Okay, guys. It’s come from running Mario 64 at like 2 fps, without textures, to it almost being perfect… Or at least close to fullspeed. So I mean, honestly, this has come AMAZINGLY far, and it pisses me off honestly, to see that people are still so unappreciative of all of his hard work.
    I think he’s doing a great job, and I have faith we’ll soon see full speed.

     
    Comment by chaka
    2007-11-27 20:06:19

    when OOT works properly i will know they are doing a good job

     
    Comment by TheKnightsWhoSayNi
    2007-11-27 20:08:38

    im guessing paper mario will finally work now since it’s listed on the picture

     
    Comment by sexystudent
    2007-11-27 20:13:22

    this emulator is a waste of time though. i mean why work on it if it will never emulate anything at full speed?

    Comment by everyone
    2007-11-28 02:49:02

    this is the stupidest comment on here…c’mon!…what the hell?

     
     
    Comment by isa
    2007-11-27 21:17:08

    i think is getting better and better i like n64 so great job and if you dont like it then why even waste your time in here saying it sucks maybe they work for sony trying to bash this site, great job StrmnNrmn , does bashers just want attention

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 01:54:33

    why waist your time playing games that dont run right.

    Comment by lostfanxx@gmail.com
    2007-11-28 22:07:48

    Why waist your time posting useless comments?

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-29 03:02:02

    why read them?

     
     
     
     
    Comment by retro
    2007-11-27 21:47:32

    I think someone should make an xbox emulator for the psp. Then we could just mod the emulator to run homebrew and run a n64 emulator at full speed no problem.

    homebrew is gay anyway

    Comment by Jibberwockee
    2007-11-28 13:05:16

    Can’t tell if this guy is being delightfully sarcastic or just stupid.

     
     
    Comment by Crapattack
    2007-11-28 00:50:20

    I think this project is great. Sure theres a ton of games that dont run right now and maybe there never will be. but even if he finishes this emulator with just a couple games that we all like to play that run smoothly then heck it was all worth it. This should just show everyone that as time goes on theres going to be more technolagy out there and one day soon well have some guy trying to emulate the 64 on are cell phones. Its not so much the destination anymore its more about the travel. if your not happy with the emulator s progress its only because you want it to work sooo bad, like all of us do. try not to be so hard on the guy. Support his efforts . you’ll all understand in 10 years when your playing xbox games on your cell phones. anyways i just wanted to add my 2 cents.

     
    Comment by everyone
    2007-11-28 02:47:46

    @ASD go take your shitty attitude somewhere else…you don’t like it then dont download it…my guess is that you didnt in the first place…i’d say you never did, you just come over here to rant everytime daedalus gets updated…just chill..now this really aint my cup of tea so i dont download it and you should do the same… you have commented multiple times on how much this emu sucks…take it somewhere else or GROW UP AND STOP BITCHING

    Comment by ASD
    2007-11-28 16:59:43

    go work on your stamp collection, lol..i’ll do what i please. A sharp tongue does not mean you have a keen mind.Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today.I don’t know what makes you so dumb but it really works.Did your parents ever ask you to run away from home? Is your name Maple Syrup? It should be, you sap. hahahahaa!!!!! by the way this emu sucks. hahaha!!!

    Comment by everyone
    2007-11-29 01:13:10

    pretty tough there behind your computer screen, huh?…you are a punk and btw if you are going to call someone else stupid at least have something intelligent to say other than calling someone maple syrup…honestly i cant think of a dumber insult…grow up you little dipshit

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