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RosettaShard Version .8.5 Released
greg | May 8, 2007
So y’all wanna learn a new language eh? Yhuck, yhuck…
Well, foebea’s RosettaShard will have you on the right path to bilingualism, or maybe even trilingualism for that matter! Better said than myself, here’s the description from the always important README.txt:
This application is compatible with the Rosetta Stone language sets without any conversion needed. Unfortunately it seems some of the audio files from Rosetta Stone are not perfect. They play fine on the PC, but the PSP audio libraries are not able to play some without distortion. Copy your Language Set lessons to the Language directory in the RosettaShard installation folder. If your Language Set has much distortion, it will need to be repaired. This will be done with a PC application which will be released as soon as it is completed. Until then, you can repair them yourself by the following:
- Rename the files so the extension SWA becomes MP3.
- Encode the files to MP3 at 22khz with a bitrate of 80kbits.
- Rename the files so the extension MP3 becomes SWA.
What’s new in version .8.5?
- The HOME button is fixed. It now brings up the HOME screen and works as normal.
- In Choose Setup -> Available Card Sets: Only Units and Lessons which are present on the memory stick are available to select.
- In Choose Setup -> Available Card Sets: Lesson Descriptions have been removed as they were not exceedingly useful. In fact the whole menu system has been replaced.
- Skins have been removed for now. This will be a feature in a later version. Currently the Skin can only be changed by replacing the images themselves. The entire interface can be skinned this way.
Download: RosettaShard .8.5
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Shortly after posting this I found proof of a memory allocation bug which may be causing the distortion. I don’t know the second thing about audio processing right now, but I will soon enough :)
fuck yes, thanks so much!
ty so much ur the greatest
foebea was talkin about releasin a new one.. so foe did u take ne1z advice or take it and edit it etc? i myself am a kid so hate learnin languages (actually mainly french and we r forced to learn french in england) but gr8 app all the same…
I’m not sure what you mean by take it and edit it.
This is a program I have had in my head for a couple years, and just got around to programming just now. It wasn’t on advice that I made it, I just though it would be a great app to have, and since Rosetta Stone isn’t going to release a portable version (at least they wouldn’t tell me when I asked) I decided to write my own.
Or like Eric S. Raymond said (before he lost his mind), you scratched a very personal itch.
And to smokethis: actually, learning a language is one of the most interesting things you can do with your mind. Some of us take great pleasure in testing the limits of what we can do with our brains, and while I admit that high-school language teaching is teh gay, hopefully you’ll homeday taste the joy of learning a new language.
What a truly valubale piece of software, now ill have to dig out my rosetta stone disks and blow the dust off.
many thanks
This is without doubt the most useful piece of homebrew ever released. Brilliant idea, glorious execution. I’m breaking out my chinese disks as I type.
I agree, ever since I picked up Rosetta I thought it be great on the PSP but never thought it would happen, much thanks.
you kick major ass, man – luv ya
Is their any tutorial about how to get the language packs working on the program, its kinda vauge and ive been trying for like an hour to get them to work. This program is wonderfull, if you dont win the competition with this, someones gonna hear from me. lol. keep it up.
Ack! I knew I forgot something. basically, you copy the folders over that you want, as they are. you need sound folders and image folders and then you have to copy over the TRS files (really at this point just CDID.TRS) and put it in the language directory, overwriting the one that is there right now. you have to make sure that your language that you want to working is on the first line of the CDID file as there is not currently multilanguage support. (for about a week).
There are a couple special cases where the original CDID file contains unicode chars (francais, espagnol, portuguese) if the language is one of those or if you still have problems loading the language please visit the Release Thread on this site which i monitor constantly by email. Give detail of what language and describe what you have tried and what happens, chances are I will know the cause right away and will reply with the solution. Hope this helps! (and sorry for the long comment) this is like the missing manual :)
i got the english pack to work, its great, every so often a sound will buzz a bit- but its great. I noticed a few things (not bashing your work).
1.The phrase that is being spoken in the upper right of the screen, if its to long it wont wrap to the next line, it just goes off the screen.
2 When trying to access the tutorial it gives you the option “NO” or “NO” (lol, its not that tuff).
3. this is great thanks
Yep the buzzing is undetermined right now. It could be the audio file itself, or memory allocation. I’m working on it.
I have not yet put in wordwrap :) I figured native support of the language sets should come first.
There is no tutorial yet :D
The tutorial will be coded in this weekend before the contest ends.
omg good luck with writing documentation in just a few days’ time! i know from writing code that docs can be the task that you least wanna do and procrastinate on, and well yeah.
Hmm, every time I try to start the program, it shows the contest splash screen, as well as the Rosetta Shard title screen, and then I get the blue “I regret to inform you but your PSP has just crashed.” Has anyone else had this problem?
It tells me that the offending routine may be identified with:
psp-addr2line -e target.elf -f -C 0×890424c 0×614b0320 0×890424
if that helps at all. I’d like to use it to supplement the classes I’m taking, and be able to use it on the PSP, but it won’t work (both firmware eboots).
Any suggestions? I’m on 3.40 OE.
Ah, I didn’t check the release thread. I’ll have to go with SWA/MP3 and JPGs… Argh, I’ll have to convert.
That would not be the issue. It loads both SWA and MP3, and JPG and PNG with ease.
The difficulty is most likely in the CDID.TRS file.
Try deleting the first part of that line, for example, “Espa-ol I” and then typing it in manually. The psp doesn’t like unicode chars by default and thats whats holding it up.
If its “Francais I” I made a boo boo.
Replace that with “French I” :D
Nah, the Japanese set uses .PCT and .SND files. I’ll just have to wait.
japanese does use SND files, but my list shows it as using JPG files. I guess they are interchangable in Rosetta Stone to some extent.
No worries though, I will find a way to get it to work. I will start on the PC program on Monday.
dude you rock.
no seriously, you do. you know that right?
I have the same problem. I am trying to use the Japanese I Language Set which are all in swa and jpgs. I changed the CDID.TRS first line and I still have the same problem, except now the blue screen comes up even faster then before. Please help, this will helps me so much I am going to JAPAN in June. :) Great APP!!!!!!!!
How much does the install take?
The basic install is about 3 megs. I have added 6 lessons to my install and it is now 15 megs in size, and reports as 24 megs on disk.
English works great. Im trying mandarine chineese(sp, and im trying to learn the language…lol). why is the size on disk so much greater than the actual size. It didnt do this with the english, only with the mandarine.
The filesystem on the psp memory stick says that the smallest amount of memory it will use at one time is…. (guessing) 4k. This means if a file is 1k worth of data, on this filesystem it will take up 4k of space. Sad, but true. Thankfully, 4gb memory sticks are about 60 bucks right now.
I dont see why people arent giving this program as much credit as it deserves. This dosent even look like a hb, it looks like something storebought. i think amazing. now im not afraid to take a foreign lang in college. This is good for the visual people. Great app, better than an n64 emu anyday. – people just want to play, id rather spend my time educating myself. Thanks again.
I cant get my spanish language set to work it keeps crashing on me any help?
make a new CDID file with this all on one line:
Espa–ol I,Japanese I,French I,Demonstration Cardset,1-1,Bold,4.0,The Rosetta Stone Demonstration Cardset,11/16/2001,2,_,yes,demo
just tested, it loads Espanol for me.
OK I’m trying to figure out how to install the Japanese I pack I have from the CD. Would I just copy the whole CD to the /languages/ folder (provided I have enough room on the mem stick)?
The Demo is great :)
Can I make a suggestion for the controls option for next version?
Card 1: UP
Card 2: TRIANGLE
Card 3: DOWN
Card 4: CROSS
I think the setup this way would more naturally match the layout of the screen.
Keep up the good work. :)
heheh thats actually the default controls and my favorite. i call it ‘classic controls’.
There is something to be said for the left handed and right handed controls though, especially if you are just lounging about, one handed idle control is nice i’ve found.
To install the Japanese pack, first make sure what kinds of files they are. If they are SND and JPG, then the audio will not play but the program will run. If they are SND and PCT, the program will not run :(
In either case, I would recommend spending a little bit of time (relatively) converting however many lessons you thing you might use over the next 2 weeks. convert SND to 44khz MP3, and convert PCT to JPG. (you could also convert to PNG, but those need to be 163×122 pixels, while the JPG will scale automagically within rosettashard. PNG will scale in the future, but not this version.)
I wouldnt really recommend copying over the whole CD until version 1.0 unless you have converted all the lessons. Otherwise you will have picture viewer bundled with a random noise generator :) It’s kinda fun, even knowing it could screech at me I still jump a bit at some of the frequencies coming out of the speakers. LOL. i’ve gotta fix that.
Ok I’m trying to Italian I working and I keep getting the damn blue screen!
I got Italian Language files in the language folder and I made the new CDID.TRS file, the first line is:
Italiano I,Italiano,1-8,Bold,4.0,The Rosetta Stone Italiano I,11/16/2001,2,_,yes,pct
Is that right?
could someone help me with the german version. i have the rosetta german cd 1 and 2. please. just IM me if you can help. spinn8@yahoo.com feel free to IM me.
meant spinne8@yahoo.com
Yea … I’m trying the German I and II and i also keep getting the blue screen of death. I changed the CDID file and tried putting the files into different folders and directory in languages and still getting the same blue screen. I’m dying to get this thing running .. cause Rosetta is the coolest thing next to sliced bread.
wow, ever since i learned of this homebrew i’ve been dying to know if german is working ok? well, at least french does (right?)
The same thing happens for greek. it goes to a blue screen and says the psp has crashed.
I found something nifty that could be the cause of these bluescreens. Some languages have (in the default settings i found) 2 different directory types for images, so i split them out. for example the first half of the units may use PCT and the rest would use PCN. So if you are getting this error, try changing your CDID. if it says “Italian I” and its not working, change it to “Italian II”. This hopefully will take care of the issue. if it does not then please hold on till contest close, I will put up a troubleshooting manual which will include what the program is expecting from each language and since it seems these language sets are not very consistant with each other, i will code in some overrides so you can tell the program exactly what it should do if it does not match what I have. This will be in the CONFIG.TRS file.
Hey dood …. just got home from work and tried what you said in the post above for the German. I put Deutsch II instead of the Deutsch I and it worked. I just tried the first 3 or 4 folders so far works pretty well .. except for the previous bugs like the buzzin and word wrap .. but still … damn dood im way stoked . keep up the excellent work.
excellent! the next release of the app will try first language I, then language II, and if that doesnt work then you will be able to specify the folder names manually as a last resort.
Does n e 1 know if this program works on firmware 3.03 OE A? I can’t get it to work. If not, which firmware will it work on besides 1.50? And where do you put the src file?
I have run it under 1.50, 3.03oe, 3.10oe, 3.40oe
You dont have the put the src file anywhere. thats just the source file. :D you would read that if you want to see how the program is made, or to make changes to it.
Maybe it just doesn’t work under 3.03 oe A? I could upgrade to oe C or 3.10 oe. I just dont wanna brick it.
with the oe firmwares there are almost no permanant bricks. you can set up a recovery folder with the 1.50 eboot, so if it bricks just hold down righttrigger while turning on the psp and enter recovery mode to flash 1.50. then you can upgrade to oe again. i dont remember how to make the recovery folder though, but google search should turn it up.
what about the pictures? do you just copy over the folder that says pictures and put in the main resetta folder next to languages?
nope, all rosetta stone content goes in the languages folder. basically, go to your rosetta stone cd, copy all the lessons you want and copy the TRS files and then paste them into the Languages folder on the psp.
Awesome job foebea! The only problem I found was that if the text for the card is more than 2 words, it runs off the screen, instead going to the next line (something to improve in the next release?). The graphical interface is nice and simple but I made slight changes to the look, re-did the “correct” and “incorrect” pics and also made them clear, feel free to take em:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/leadpoizon/temp.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/leadpoizon/correct.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/leadpoizon/incorrect.png
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these are excellent! i will use them for sure and credit you. thanks!
great work,
however i gotta ask how each flash card is chosen? it doesnt seem very “random” it allmost seems to land on up arrow and x to much of the time.
also any chance to get PCT to view without converting first?
thats random for ya :)
i make an array of 1,2,3,4 and randomize it for the images.
i make an array of 1,2,3,4 and randomize if for the sounds and text.
if button press selects cardnumber which matches sound/text number, then correct. else incorrect
mmmmm ok i´ve downloaded and everything but… where can i get languages for this thing?
you can get the languages at http://www.rosettastone.com or possibly at your local computer store. note, this program is not compatible with the online subscription based rosetta stone as you dont get a copy of the files with the online version.
just converted both japanese discs. works a treat! one thing though, 44kHz not 22kHz when converting to mp3. lookin forward to next release hope you can get the word wrap fixed! awesome work.
what software are you guys using to reencode the mp3 files?
great work, really appreciate your time spent on this project. its a brilliant homebrew, thank you.. looking forward to your next release!
Eeverything works perfectly for me for the Japanese Language… I converted the .SND sound files to 22kHz .mp3 (no renaming, straight convertions), then afterwards I just made a bath file which renamed all .mp3 files to .swa (you dont really need to make a bath file, I just did it so I dont have to rename all those file manually… At last, I resized all the .pict files to have the width 163 pixels (using batch function is Photoshop) and and saved them all as jpegs… As for the files to be tranfered, I basically transfered all the files in the language CD into the language folder, then did the above changes to them…
I am dying to get this program to run, but unfortunately I always get the blue screen. I’ve tried all the suggestions above, including changing I to II and so on.. I’m using the spanish language pack and this is the contents of my CDID:
Spanish (Spain) I,Spanish (Spain),1-8,Bold,4.0,The Rosetta Stone Spanish (Spain) I,8/26/2003,2,_,yes,pct
Spanish (Spain) II,Spanish (Spain),9-19,Bold,4.0,The Rosetta Stone Spanish (Spain) II,7/11/2003,2,_,yes,pct
Thanks for any help!
This will be fixed in the next release. It will come soon.
If anyone is still reading this comment thread, here’s a link to the manual I just finished.
RosettaShard Manual:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ml43s8
I am trying to get Tagalog to work. I copied over the files and added the underscore _ to the main folder name and I still get the blue screen.
Great job, very useful homebrew. How’s v0.9 going? Have you figured out a way to stop the sound glitches? Looking forward to the next release.
is it just me or is the blue screen of death inevitable… hopefully .9 is easier for what now feels like…. noobs like me haha its still awesome though :)
Yeah im getting the BSOD with japanese disk one every time. I have tried everything mentioned here with no success. I will however say outstanding job. I think this hb is quite probable the most useful one to date that i have come across.
To fix the blue screen with Japanese I, I had to copy *all* of the data directories JPN01-* to JPN04-* and all of the PCA01-* to PCA04-* ones. Then I copied over the CDID.TRS file to the psp and removed the ‘TRS’ from the top of the file and copied the Japanese I line to the top.
This works, but the words sound like a record played too fast. It’s all in extreme fast forward. Anyone know what’s up with that? All the files are .mp3.
All the Psp Homebrewers amaze me. This is an amazing program you made. Hopefully Spanish and japanese can be fixed soon cause i’ve bee wanting to try it.
Any idea on updates? I’m still lost on how to get it to work but hope an update will help.
Is there any reason to convert the audio files if they are in .SWA format at 22 and 80 already as the italian and spanish 1 come?
foebea, Great Work. Still waiting for the updates. more power!!!
Hey dude! Thanks for this amazing tool you developed! I’m just having problems w/ the unicode and the language set of portuguese. i keep getting the blue screen of death :(
here is what i have to work w/:
TRS Portugus I,Portugus,1-8,Bold,4.0,The Rosetta Stone Portugus I,04.30.2002,2,_,yes,pct
(with the unicode box in place of spaces)
are there handmade .TRS files for the Portuguese sets? thanks in advance!!!!!!
Im trying the japanese cd with the RS V8.6
my files are in AU format sound and pict images?
so will it not work for me?
Is there a way to convert pct files?
yep, pct, snd, au… these formats need to be converted still. Going into this i had not realized how common they were. rosettashard has changed the format for some of thier languages, and the languages are not even backward compatible with the official program.. Tagalog and languages like it only work with the most recent release from rosetta stone themselves.
It will be a while for those yet. if its just pct and au being the issue, they can be converted, but if the filenames and folderstructures do not match normal language sets then they will not work even if you convert them. Just renaming the folders wont help if the file names are all wrong as well.
Yeah my question was actually about tagalog too. As far as I know it is one of the languages that requires a newer version of Rosetta Stone. If you need tagalog let me know, I can get it to you for educational purposes.
It’s great that such application exists, but its terrible misfortune, that it doesn’t work under CFW 3.90-M33-2 on Psp SLIM, that doesn’t have support for kernel 1.5… I’ve take an attempt to launch Rosetta on Psp slim, using TimeMachine by DarkAlex, that enables the 1.5 kernel on Slim. The application starts, but it’s useless cuz’ the GUI troubleshoots awfully…
So i’m really upset.
DOES ANYONE KNOW, How to launch it ON PSP SLIM?????